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Article posted Oct 19 2009, 10:17 AM Category: General Source: Salon Life Print

Salon.com Whines Masses Waking up to Globalist Conspiracy, Listening to Alex Jones

The Internet ate my nephew! He's a smart kid but he's fallen for a crazy conspiracy site
By Cary Tennis


Perhaps you should listen to your own family instead of worshiping the government and asking some random newspaper shill for advice on how to run someone else's life... Oh, sorry, that would require you to actually apply yourself and do real work, my apologies. Just tell yourself he is crazy and turn him into the authorities like a good little soviet. Be sure to drink your fluoride, take your damn vaccines, and never question the government, because that is a mental illness, after all, you don't want to be put in the camps which don't exist right!?! Good! Now just gobble them pills and tell yourself everything is going to be alright! - Chris

...That said this shill most likely wrote this letter to himself, you have to make a living somehow, some of us do real work, others write letters to themselves and collect their paycheck diagnosing political dissidents as insane, what a world.
Dear Cary,

I have a 17-year-old nephew who is a smart kid but a very poor student. He's kind of always been coddled by his mom (my sister), who has made excuses for his inability to comply with the basic requirements of schooling since early elementary school. What may be in part this past, in part his innate stubborn nature and in part a real disability, he has always had a hard time reading and never did well in school.

We used to have in-depth historical and political conversations (I have a B.A. in global history and a J.D., speak several languages, and have lived in many parts of the world), but I got married a couple of years ago and subsequently moved to a nearby state, and our interactions became limited to family functions a few times a year.

Over the last few months, he's gotten sucked into the Internet conspiracy black hole created by some guy named Alex Jones. Jones does an Internet video broadcast alleging all sorts of conspiracies. It's the same litany of shadowy cabals manipulating governments, businesses, etc., that have existed for centuries. Among other things, he's convinced that President Obama is a Nazi (!), Bill Gates is trying to depopulate the world, and fluoride in the water is there to lower IQs.

I can see why it appeals to my nephew -- he doesn't have to read anything, and it allows him to feel like he knows more than all the well-traveled, well-educated adults around him.

What bothers me is the quasi-religious zeal with which he embraces this mix of paranoid half-truths and apocalyptic fantasies. He smugly asserts that any criticism of this Jones is a product of the nefarious dark forces out to discredit the only man intelligent enough and courageous enough to tell the truth. As far as I can find out, Jones is in many ways like the more public purveyor of this nonsense, Glenn Beck, that is, simply some deejay with a high school degree and not much else.

I kind of get the feeling that my nephew's reaction is what 17-year-old young men in 1930s Germany felt like when told that they were in fact part of a master race being manipulated by the international Jewish conspiracy. It's seductive to turn off your brain and let someone else feed you "the truth," which is why there seems to be this evangelical aspect to his obsession.

What can I do, if anything, to rescue my nephew from getting sucked down this black hole? He was spouting stuff about "the Hegelian dialectic" and "neo-Malthusians," which he gleaned from the broadcasts. He was surprised when I walked across the room to my bookshelf and pulled down my college-annotated versions of both Hegel and Malthus. But I don't know that if I spend the time to factually debunk Jones' nonsense point by point that it will break through the "faith" aspect of my nephew's fascination.

Please let me know what I can do to help guide my nephew away from this cultish fear-monger.

Thanks.

Buck

Dear Buck,

How can you guide him away from this cultish fear-monger?

I wish I knew. I wish I knew your nephew and how he is going to get through this. I am not an expert on how to raise kids.

But let me share my own experience, and suggest some things that we think we know, those of us who are interested in these things, either professionally or, as in my case, because we write daily about a great variety of human perplexities. I do know that when I was young I was attracted to cults and utopian leaders. I dabbled in a variety of systems that promised ultimately simple answers to complex problems. Though I started out as a brilliant student, I began to fail at high school by the 10th grade. I was restless and angry. I barely graduated. Even now, 40 years later, I still feel like I'm suffocating when I think about it. I hated the artificial hurdles we were being asked to take seriously. I hated the feeling of being imprisoned. I still feel angry about all my time stolen by routine, by technocrats, by authoritarians who seemed to know nothing about what we teenagers were actually feeling.

So his experience is by no means unique.

We know that people at his age are being driven relentlessly by a developmental imperative beyond their control; they experience dramatic acceleration in power, desire and emotion. They try to manage it but it is frightening, and they will reach for a variety of things to acquire a feeling of stability, safety and knowledge. For someone who is smart but does not read, and has very little experience of life, and who is living among sophisticated adults, a system that offers simple explanations will be very attractive.

You say that your nephew "smugly asserts that any criticism of this Jones is a product of the nefarious dark forces out to discredit the only man intelligent enough and courageous enough to tell the truth."

I would not take on the Alex Jones thing as an intellectual problem at all. What is important is what your nephew needs. He is getting something out of this site, but perhaps the whole thing is a red herring. That is, perhaps he feels he must try to compete with the adults in his world in a realm that he is not suited for.

Is this perhaps one of those households where abstract reasoning and knowledge are prized but physical ability is not? What if his gifts lie more in the realm of crafts, outdoor activities, or a trade of some sort?

Frankly, I would try to get your nephew out into the wilderness. I would find out what he wants to do with his hands. Can you take him camping? Can you go on a trip together in the wilderness?

And what about his inner life? He is obviously looking for a system that explains why things are fucked up. He senses malevolence in the world. He knows the world is full of dangers but if he has been coddled by his mother and protected from these dangers then he has no confidence that he can meet these dangers. They become spectral and hideous, full of complex intent. Everyone becomes suspect.

It may do him good to meet some actual dangers and see that the world is full of peril but peril is manageable.

Can you get him out of the computer and into the wild world for a week or so? That's what I would do.

It's a great excuse to go camping.

If you cannot do it, you might look into various wilderness programs for teens, and perhaps sponsor him. It may not be a cure-all, but it is a start.

I do not want to conclude without making explicit that if he has dyslexia or some kind of attention-deficit disorder, those are things that should be diagnosed and treated on their own. If his mother's coddling has prevented him from facing up to these possible problems, that could be adding to his anxiety. So I would definitely, in addition to the camping trip, or wilderness expedition, do what you can to bring to light any organic, diagnosable and treatable conditions he may have. Treating them will not only improve his abilities but give him some confidence that obstacles can be overcome and differences in ability can be compensated for.

Oh, and, well, actually, there's one more thing.

The Alex Jones site has the appeal of stuff that used to be in the backs of comic books. Everything is huge and scary, tailored to the adolescent temperament.

"New Survival Seed Bank Lets You Plant A Full Acre Crisis Garden!"

"Make Powerful Herbal Medicines Secretly in Your Kitchen!"

"5-Day Handgun Course ... and a Free Handgun!"

Yeah. Sign me up.


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Bob

Posted: Oct 19 2009, 3:48 PM

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24.154.XXX.XXX This is the kind of hit piece that has become all too frequent as of late. Call them crazy, adolescent, ignorant; the effect is the same. Those who will not see shall perish just like those who grovel at the boot.

Revolt!!
TimAng

Posted: Oct 19 2009, 9:57 PM

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Drug him!! Drug that boy!! Somebody diagnose his ADHD and drug him!!!

His simple mind cannot understand the conversations we sophisticated adults are having! He doesn't have a BA or a JD! What could he possibly know about global history without a bachelor's degree in it!? Look at my college-annotated notes on Hegel and Malthus! Look at all the stamps on my passport. I've been places. I bet Alex Jones hasn't lived in half as many european cities as I have!

What? Nazi? I'm no Nazi! You're the Nazi! Look at you. You're just like those young men who were duped by Hitler in the 1930s! ...what do you mean I'M the one being duped liked them? That doesn't make any sense. I have a BA in global history!!! I understand the world! I have a JD for christ's sake!

i was thinking of the will ferrell sketch on SNL while writing this. does anyone remember the skit? I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!!
Chris

Posted: Oct 19 2009, 10:08 PM

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lol
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 19 2009, 10:29 PM

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67.150.XXX.XXX People who listen to Alex Jones are just as "stuck in the Matrix" as those who don't. They need to stop pretending they're so informed and special when their just as uninformed and in the dark as pretty much everybody else. Alex Jones hardly scratches the surface of what's really happening in the global/historical "conspiracy", and half of what he reports is sensationalist disinfo and distortion anyway.
JB

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 12:52 AM

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Wow!! I have always posited that Alex Jones needs a new "style", so to speak. The way he presents his message is one of the main reasons the message is not heard. He really looks like a nut to me...but his information has proven to have quite a bit of truth to it....In any case, the answer to this newspaper query is terribly pseudo-psychiatric...as if the responder has an understanding of the inner world of this 17 year old which makes no sense for him to have after just one letter from a concerned relative.

TimAng, you are HILARIOUS!!!

: )!

JEB
Prophet2k

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 1:44 PM

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99.229.XXX.XXX I think this articles raises some valid points, although the overall theme is typically off-course.

Alex Jones is an alarmist to be sure. Underlying his propensity to believe readily in the worst-case scenario is still the ridiculous profession of faith in god. Religion itself is also a grand conspiracy theory. But I'll leave that for now.

The truth behind this article is that those who seek for news from one source and accept that as gospel are susceptable to misinformation. One must evaluate all information, regardless of source and seek for supporting information(research) and make personal decisions based on an informed understanding. Deal with everything sceptically, even scepticism.

The acceptance of cult personalities, be they, Alex Jones, Barack Obama, Pope Benedict, closes the minds of the individual and indoctrinates the sheeple into cults of nationality, race, faith, status, and ethos.

Alex Jones may not be right about alot of things but the mainstream media, especially in the United States, where media is controlled by government influence for the ever nefarious "reasons of national security", is quite commonly grossly inaccurate and transparently partisan, and thus unreliable as a source for commentary.

Sure Alex Jones is a "cultish fear-monger" but isn't Fox News an syncophantic war-monger? and your local priest, an false eternal paradise peddlar?


Bruce

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 2:02 PM

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24.68.XXX.XXX My 60's Hypno Coin interview with Glenn Beck;
Beck; Welcome to the show, Bruce.
Me; Thanks for having me.
Beck; So Bruce, you claim to have a stunning announcement. Do tell.
Me; Indeed. An exiting moment. {revealing Hypno Coin}
Beck; Oi uhh whaaaat, Uhh whoooo huh yeahh.
Me; Alice Cooper has a wonderful song,,,'FREEDOM'
Beck; Freedom, sigggh, mmmust hhhhave mmmore.
Me; Splendid. Freedom to rock?
Beck; Yesssss
Me; Freedom to talk?
Beck; Yesssss
Me; Freedom to be not taken away
Beck; Yesssss
Me; Splendid. Goodbye.
Beck; Yesssss
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 3:55 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX [I will continue to delete all shill posts, go earn your paycheck elsewhere idiot - Chris]
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:07 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX sure pal...you get your paycheck from hawking Alex Jones fear merch?
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:11 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX Is this how you debate? delete uncomfortable ideas..out of sight out of mind huh chris? who is the propagandist now?
Chris

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:16 PM

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There is no debate, one line idiocy shilling is not a point of contention, it's disinfo or at worse extremely petty idiocy (I hope for humanity's sake it's not the latter). The comment policy has a special paragraph written specifically for your type if you fall into the latter. I will delete any shill posts like yours with gusto.
Chris

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:18 PM

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Also I remember your old posts and how you are playing both sides as well, so fuck off.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:21 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX chirs..you remember when you called Obama a "Spade" .. I stepped forward and questioned the usage? you kindly removed the slur. I thanked you..but you went forward and called me a communist because of my "sensitivity training". nice, well played.

I am a free thinking man, capeable of playing devils advocate and finding consensus. this is a strength you fear and are incapeable of debating like a man.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:25 PM

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84.251.XXX.XXX Obama is a puppet
Chris

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:29 PM

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No, you're a two face who lies out of one side of his head while telling people what they want to hear out of the other, there is a difference. You're a plebe who plays games with people for your own petty amusement, that is not a man but a coward.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:31 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX name calling, nice. attack the man and not the message. losing more and more respect with each post of yours.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:32 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX how do you defend the status quo of the healthcare oligopoly as it resides? let's debate.
Chris

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:35 PM

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Look buddy, you don't respect yourself, so why would you respect someone who tells you who you are? You respect medals and fancy suits, you respect people who lie to you and stomp on your throat, that's who you respect. For you to not respect me is a distinct honor and a privilege and I thank god for the opportunity to enrich my soul through your petty "loss of respect." It's a blessing, and I mean that 100%.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:40 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX Do go on with your paranoid fantasy about me. You do not know me, but you have concoted some fine illusion for yourself.

My advice, ask your doctor what prozac can do for you today.
Anonymous

Posted: Oct 20 2009, 4:42 PM

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66.15.XXX.XXX p.s. I know what it means to replace the sign with the signified.

I worship no false idols...yours have eyes but they do not see, ears but they do not hear.
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