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Analysis posted Jul 15 2009, 6:39 PM

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The "So and So is a Shill" Trap

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We live in a world where celebrities and the media are placed on a stage, they talk down to us literally and figuratively, this puts us in the role of being able to either cheer, boo, or say nothing. When we watch a commercial we are put into the role of a consumer, we can only say we want a product or we don't. When "our leaders" talk to us all we can do is cheer or boo. This is by design because it makes us all feel we are worthless plebes whose only role in life is to rah rah rah or boo boo boo. This same psychology is at the root of the common practice of saying "so and so is a shill."

The biggest propaganda in media and television is never in the overt message, it is always hidden in the underline premise through which endless debates and rabble rousing occurs discussing some mundane nuance about this or that. For example, politicians and the media will argue endlessly about something like gay marriage, yet they never ask the question: why should people have to register their relationships with the state? Does the government have any business at all in my relationships? Should the government be a legal third party in my marriage? Of course they don't ask those questions because it would render the entire debate a complete and total fraud.

The same goes for this whole mindset which many people do not seem able to shake despite being privy to information about the new world order etc. When they are watching or listening to some anti-nwo speaker they are still putting themselves in the position of plebes whose only role is to cheer or boo. They haven't woken up to the reality they themselves need to be the sole arbiter of their own lives, the sole determiner of their own beliefs, and the sole person responsible for taking action to wake others up.

I am not against saying "so and so is a shill," certainly there are many many shills in this movement as in any other, the problem comes when the person puts themselves into the plebe role, the role of a spectator in a Colosseum, and they feel themselves to be guiding the course of the future by simply booing some "shill."

If you want to advance out of this manufactured "role" you need to realize you are taking it on every time you hurrah hurrah or boo someone, you need to take an active role in directing and guiding your own life, that is what will help yourself and others a million more times than just simply saying "down with so and so."

Step out of the fake paradigm of watcher/consumer and enter into the world of creator/producer. If you are always only reacting to the world then you are helpless in guiding its course. Self-honesty is the only way to change. - Chris, IL

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Posted: Jul 15 2009, 8:40 PM

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Well said.

The media and our forced schooling system combine to create this mindset. Public school by its very nature puts us in a passive spectator role. You're supposed to wait your turn and even then wait for approval. A lot of people don't respect themselves enough to tear themselves away from the watcher/consumer or rah rah/boo boo role.

The New World Order wants to shape our future and destiny for us. They're the ultimate control freaks.

Chris

Posted: Jul 15 2009, 11:57 PM

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I was searching the interwebs earlier and I came across another forum which will go unnamed which was filled with all the same stuff I talk about in this article, I was surprised by how large it was to be honest, there was this huge thread accusing some genuine real human being of being a shill and I was pouring through it as I sometimes do because I want to understand the mindset of these people, I want to understand what makes them who they are. Every post was some little jab, an indirect snipe from the shadows, there was like 50+ pages on this one thread going on and on, I couldn't read it all obviously but it drives me insane seeing these people sabotage themselves so 'vociferously' I think the word would be?

Well after pondering it for a few hours I realized what I think is at the core of it all, after thinking about post after post accusing this human of this and that I finally came to realize the obviousness of their problem (the hardest things to realize are always the most obvious): They don't care about themselves. Once again, they do not care about themselves.

They are obsessed with other people because they have no life of their own, they have no dreams of a better future which they want to create, they have no emotions they yearn to express freely and openly, they live in someone else's world and they are obsessed with someone else's 'celebrity'.

Honestly it is a mental disorder, if it wasn't some member of this whole movement it would be John Lennon or whoever, it's the emotional plague just sucking the life out of anything and everything it can. They are sick in the head.

fred

Posted: Jul 16 2009, 6:38 AM

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BRAVO Chris.

friendstacy

Posted: Jul 16 2009, 7:01 AM

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people are starting to question the self-proclaimed leaders' claims to authority. this is a good thing. we don't have to choose to either lead or follow. we can stand on our own and make our own decisions for ourselves. we don't need anyone telling us what to think. we can do that ourselves, too. as the groupthink breaks down, many will react emotionally, as you have done here, chris. we all experience healing in different ways. it's all good.

Dave

Posted: Jul 16 2009, 11:23 AM

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Sometimes healing requires understanding the true nature of the problem, in many of the issues covered here this includes knowledge and understanding of problems that have been hidden, denied and ignored.

The internet is levelling the playing field, ideas and information can and have roamed free. This has included discussing different aspects of the prison system; the money system, education, orchestrated contructs like disease, earthquakes, weather and war. Through examining what has been and is happening the methods by which mankind is fooled the orchestrated media has itself been exposed for what it was set up for and is used for with the flagship of the BBC collapsing faster than it can be rebranded. The world and attempts to create catasrophe here is being watched perhaps like never before which has a dramatic effect on what is likely to happen as is demonstrated with the failure of the media to break people down through the recycling of threats.

One of the questions I considered today was that if there was major catastrophe, is mankind likely allow the world to be controlled again? I see that as a question of relevance in the present.

Anonymous

Posted: Jul 17 2009, 1:31 AM

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I call it "smorgasbord thinking" i.e you choose from pre-selected options and opinions etc, rather that considering what the options should be or developing them yourself.

Prescribed choice is a terribly luke-warm kind of freedom.

Chris

Posted: Jul 17 2009, 3:22 AM

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thanks fred!

"smorgasbord thinking" lol, that is the perfect term, I love it.

A guy who is typing this

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 12:36 AM

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75.72.XXX.XXX

Chris, are you refering to the Outlaw Journalism forum? I don't think you should be afraid of pointing fingers, just as long as it's done politely and with the intent of a productive result. Granted, one of the main topics of discussion over at Outlaw is investigating and exposing truth movement gurus/celebs, and the people there aren't really applying the information to a goal, but it's a crucial area of research to delve into if people think they're ever going to defeat the elite. You state that you're not against a person saying someone is a shill, but the way you're psychoanalyzing people, and even calling them sick and whatnot, I don't know, it just looks like you're discouraging this.

Nontheless you made a good point [in the main post] about this watch-and-react mode of living. I agree with you totally on that.

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 1:14 AM

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Well, I am discouraging it, and I don't want to point fingers because it's just a reality in our society and it is common place. I am not against it, I just think it is totally overboard and not psychologically healthy (and a total con-job).

If someone is a shill, ok, someone is a shill, that's how things work, there are bad people in this world and the truth will not just be handed to you on a silver platter, but I just move on and focus on my own work because a shill is not capable of producing greatness.

Honestly if you took some stranger off the street who just has a good heart and cares about people they are much better off than someone who knows about the nwo but is spending all their time obsessing over who is a shill and who isn't.

I have recorded a video about this but I am not sure if I want to post it as it is really not that important, honestly most people I talk to know nothing about politics and when I explain to them how the world works it is completely new to them. They don't know who anyone in the movement is etc. and honestly who the shills are is really not that important (they can't produce truth), what is important is who you are, do you stand for truth and further life or do you further death, or are you part of the problem or part of the solution.

I think this quote from Wilhelm Reich nails the situation on the head (it is the same today and it's always been like this):

"You have no eye, no feeling for the truly great man. His character, his suffering, his yearning, his fury, and his struggle in your behalf are foreign to you. You are unaware that man and women exist who are inherently incapable of oppressing and exploiting you, men and women who want you to be free, really and truly free. You dislike such men and women, because they are alien to your nature. They are simple and forthright; they value the truth as much as you value trickery. They see through you, not with contempt but with sorrow and the human condition; but your awareness of being seen through gives you a sense of danger. You recognize their greatness, little man, only when many other little men tell you they are great. You're afraid of great men, their closeness to life and love of life. But the great man loves you as he would love any other animal, as a living creature. He doesn't want you to suffer as you've suffered for thousands of years. He doesn't want you to talk nonsense, as you've done for thousands of years. He doesn't want you to live like a work horse, because he loves life and wants it to be free from suffering and humiliation.

You drive truly great men to despise you, to hide their heads in sorrow at you and your smallness, to avoid you, and worst of all, to pity you. If, little man, you are a psychiatrist, a Lombroso for instance, you brand the truly great man a criminal, or at least a would-be criminal, or a lunatic, because a great man does not, like you, see the aim of life in riches, in socially suitable marriages for his daughters, or in a political career, or in academic honors. So, because he is different from you, you call him a "genius" or a "nut". He, for his part, is quite willing to admit that he's not a genius but only a living creature. You call him asocial because he'd rather be alone with his thoughts than listening to inane chatter at your social functions. You say he's crazy because he spends his money on scientific research instead of investing it in stocks as you do. You dare, little man, in your abysmal degeneracy, to call a simple, straightforward man "abnormal." You measure him against yourself and your petty standards of normalcy and find him wanting. You fail to see, little man, you refuse to recognize, that you're driving this man, who loves you and wants only to help you, from all social life, because in drawing room and barroom alike, you've made it unbearable. Who made him what he is today after decades of desperate suffering? You did, with your unscrupulousness, your narrow-mindedness, your crooked thinking and your "eternal truths," which are incapable of surviving ten years of social development. Just think of all the "certainties" you've sworn by in the years between the First and Second World Wars alone. Tell me frankly, how much have you retracted? Nothing, little man. A great man is cautious in his thinking, but once he commits himself to an idea, he thinks far ahead. And you, little man, treat him like a pariah when his idea proves to be sound and long-lived, and yours a piddling flash in the pan. By making him into a pariah, you sow the terrible seed of loneliness in him. Not the seed that engenders great actions but the seed of fear, the fear of being misunderstood and abused by you. For you are "the people," "public opinion," "social conscience." Have you, little man, ever stopped to think of the enormous responsibility this implies? Have you ever asked yourself (tell the truth now!) whether, from the standpoint of long-term social development, or of nature, or of great human achievement--that of a Jesus, for example-- your thinking is right or wrong? No, you never ask yourself whether your thinking is right or wrong. You ask yourself what your neighbor will say about it, or whether, if you do right, it will cost you money. That's what you ask yourself, little man; that and nothing else!"

You see I want to break the chain, I don't want for things to go on like this indefinitely, and in order to do that you have to tell people things they don't want to hear and do things you don't want to do. I don't enjoy it but I do it because I have to, things can not go on like this forever.

fred

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 6:40 AM

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HI Chris

A whiles back I use to Post here quite often. Mostly related videos and a few word of comment.
AND I was called a "shill."
Now, I didn't know what a shill and and trying to find out my mind went in circles.
Ex. Coud the one calling me a shill BE a shill himself? etc.
Can one be innocent in the way he posts and still be named a shill?
How does one know that an honest Post is a shill?

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 6:56 AM

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Here is the actual definition:

shill
/ʃɪl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [shil] Show IPA Slang.
Use shill in a Sentence
�noun
1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2. a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.
�verb (used without object)
3. to work as a shill: He shills for a large casino.
�verb (used with object)
4. to advertise or promote (a product) as or in the manner of a huckster; hustle: He was hired to shill a new TV show.
Origin:
1920�25; orig. uncert.
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, � Random House, Inc. 2009.

shill (shĭl)
n. One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
v. shilled, shill�ing, shills

v. intr.
To act as a shill.
v. tr.

1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.

shill
1916, "one who acts as a decoy for a gambler, auctioneer, etc." (probably originally circus or carnival argot), probably a shortened form of shillaber (1913) with the same meaning, origin unknown. The verb is attested from 1914.

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 6:58 AM

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Basically people are payed to go around and stir up controversy, attack people etc. in order to try and co-opt social movements.
See this article here: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=26188
Note the language game they play, by saying "monitor" they avoid explicitly stating they are interacting with people, posting on the forums, chatting in the chatrooms, etc.

By the same token corporations will pay people to go around acting independent and post on forums about their new Nike shoes and how wonderful they are etc.

The main way to tell who is a shill and who isn't is by judging the persons fruits, what are they producing, goodness or something rotten?

friendstacy

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 8:45 AM

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well, me personally, i'm not picking sides. picking sides is what supports the structure of society that abuses us all. authority needs an us versus a them. are you good, or are you bad? which side are you on? are you with us or are you against us? it doesn't really matter which side you pick, so long as you pick one. you didn't used to pick sides, chris. you used to seem to understand the kind of freedom i've been talking about all this time. what happened? or was i simply deluded into thinking there really do exist people who think for themselves? no. i refuse to accept that.

what is happening, right now, is freedom. it can be ours, but not if we follow anyone else's path. the ones who can't follow have historically either been groomed to be leaders, or were killed. there's too many of us now, people who would rather be free, who just want to be allowed to think their own thoughts and make their own decisions. it's not too much to ask. it's the world our children deserve to inherit.

Dave

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 9:21 AM

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<what is happening, right now, is freedom. it can be ours, but not if we follow anyone else's path. the ones who can't follow have historically either been groomed to be leaders, or were killed. there's too many of us now, people who would rather be free, who just want to be allowed to think their own thoughts and make their own decisions.>

true

Joey Tavares

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 3:07 PM

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Chris, thanks for the Reich quote.

It is loneliness, but not so bad now.

Merci mille fois.

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 3:27 PM

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"what is important is who you are, do you stand for truth and further life or do you further death, or are you part of the problem or part of the solution."

See, I don't see what is wrong with saying that, just because the idea itself has been hijacked and it has been used as a slogan by the forces of evil or whatever you want to call them does not make the idea untrue. The way evil (that's the only term for it in english afaik) operates is by taking things which are true and then twisting them and applying them where they don't apply, paradoxical conditioning is one term for it, where they take the opposite of the truth and present it as true, that way if someone hears a truth it is too different (it is the literal opposite of what they believe) to accept it as true.

The answer to me is not then not to take sides or involve yourself in the flow, but to look at it as honestly as possible and discern for yourself the way things are. From the religious myths it's comparable to "the counterfeit kingdom" as they say, and no I didn't convert there is just no other terms in our language to describe these ideas, it's by design I'm sure and it fits right into the whole counterfeit idea.

They hide the truth right in your face so they can get you to go off searching in India or Tibet or wherever instead of just delving into your own mind, recognizing your own conditioning, and opening up the mental dams which prevent your life spirit and emotions to break through honestly and unimpeded.

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 3:30 PM

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Hey thanks Joey, there is nothing harder in this world than just being yourself. They make it so easy just to 'go along to get along' as they say but in order to go along you have to sacrifice yourself.

JoeyTavares

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 4:46 PM

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It is most disconcerting to find fellowship in the annals of electronica - the dearth of awareness is ubiquitous, it seems. That said, my day is made better for your efforts. I will take it as it comes. I've learned a lot here in the past couple of years, and am grateful. Today's break from isolation - the words, ah, the words. Of great kinship, mon fr�re...

Chris

Posted: Jul 18 2009, 5:20 PM

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<3 thanks joey, if want to you can email me at anytime, webmaster@informationliberation.com

Dave

Posted: Jul 19 2009, 7:22 AM

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Talking of counterfeit chris, i noticed some of this locally with people talking about swine flu going along with the flow of information as puppets of the military's alternative reality control computer systems.

I think it was yesterday some chap said the local hospital was hit hard with 3 nurses sent home with it, he knew, he worked there he said. I asked him how he knew they had swine flu, he said he didn't. In other words he knew nothing about swine flu, just that the district hospital had three nurses off sick. All he had was twitter.

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